Erika: And that's all the info you get on that!! All I can tell you is it's like nothing you've ever heard before and I cant wait for it to be heard.
Me: Well shit, I can't wait to hear it. Any time frame about a finish date?
Erika: I really wish I could tell you but honestly I have no clue. I would like to think Summer 2009, but who knows. We are definitely coming very close to
being done with all the writing, but then we have to get in the studio and that itself will take quite some time I’m sure. Kirby's somewhat of a perfectionist
when it comes to style.
Me: I’ve been around bands all of my life. It takes a long time to put something out after it’s recorded. You got cover art and layout. Mastering. You should
really have some sort of a website where people can go and get everything they need. Info. Links with places to buy. Show schedules. Contact info.
Everything. I went with just a strictly MySpace thing for exit here and it helped a little but not much. It was a huge mistake. Having a mailing list is huge.
And a center for everything that’s You. But I can’t wait to hear the album. I hope it’s here as soon as possible. So…how did this project get off the ground
Erika: We met Kirby through a close friend.
Rachael: He’d heard some of our old freestyles from that friend and then he hit us up. Said he wanted to give us a beat he made. He met us at Escape
from NY Pizza and we got stoned and then listened to music. Then we decided to make a cd together.
Erika: Kirby told us, “We’re doing this shit, and there's going to be a lot of hate and a lot of love from people, but it's gonna be worth it". He also said we
would love and hate each other throughout the process and he sure was right about that!! But it has only made us closer, more connected and
Me: Was there any apprehension or hesitation on your guys' part? Like maybe we're not ready to cut an album yet?
Rachael: No, we were ready for the challenge. Of course I never want to get my expectations too high, but I felt like going along with this musical
journey would be an overall worth-it experience even if it never got made into a COMPACT DISC CD.
Me: So this friend of yours…Any ill will from that friend toward you guys or was there a basic artist understanding that your shit was just better than there
Erika: Well it's not that our shit was better, I would just say very different. Our friend makes abstract beats and is good at what he does. I just think that
Kirby was extremely humored and intrigued but what we were doing and decided to work with us first. Kirby still wants to work with our friend at some
point but Toast is his priority right now. And there is no ill will that I know of. Our friend is a very kind person.
Me: Cool. What was the first song you two wrote?
Rachael: It's called "lover dujour". It's kind of diva-ish forealtho. It's like, "I am a woman you better recognize".
Erika: Basically its kind of a mockery of the "ideal bitch", meaning it's us rapping about how we were the shit and as long as you have us you don't need
another ho because we got that bomb ass pussy (which we do, by the way) and we'll do whatever you want, yadadameean?? In actuality, to anyone who
really knows us or our music, we aren't one bit like this. We want a bitch to be pleasing and serving US, not the other way around! That's why I say it's a
mockery of some girls who are actually suckas for dudes like that.
Me: And there you have it. Although shit, ya know, some people are built differently. They've had different life experiences. I'm a firm believer that you
have a certain lifestyle and you live that out and do it hard and the scars and bruises and stories will serve you for a lifetime and that you only tweak things
when YOU, yourself come to the point that says I cannot maintain this anymore, I'm over it, time for a new chapter. I guess my point is, maybe there are
girls out there who have the exact opposite take on things but who've lived the life you're advocating and now say, "Shit. Been there. Time to move on."
And they go the different direction. Any leeway in your philosophy about that?
Erika: Yea I’m sure many girls live very different than the lifestyle I advocate for myself. I really don't care what kind of lifestyle you have lived or currently
live as long as you are happy and open minded. This is just the way I am.
Me: Hmmmm….That’s legit. So two white girls rapping in a medium that's still very biased towards women, especially white woman, trying to make it. What
have been the toughest obstacles to get through in order to get where you have gotten?
Rachael: It's been hard for me to introduce my music to some people, especially if I am there while they are hearing it. My obstacles as a white woman on
the microphone haven't been too bad. Honestly, once listeners get passed the shock value, I think they recognize a humorous tone and become more
accepting. Some dudes are like "you're white, you're a girl, and you rap. Bust a flow right now". If you are fucking around with a bunch of dudes passing the
mic around, some can't seem to handle it when a girl gets a turn. But that's ok, because the proof is in the puddin'.
Erika: For me, doing this project has made me not give a fuck even more than I did before. After a while, the hate, shit talking and all that comes a long
with putting yourself out there starts to become completely insignificant. And I believe a big part of this is being completely confident in yourself and
knowing that you're the shit regardless of what people say. We've had people be really cool to our face then talk hella shit once we walk away, and at first
its upsetting, especially when you thought these people were your friends, but after a while you start to have that "hater radar" and you can tell who's
genuine and who's talking out of there ass to either please your ear or to get the pussy. I did once get beer thrown at me at one of our shows while I was
rapping, that sucked. But the shitty feeling was so very temporary, and any girl who uses a flat iron knows that it aint cool to go from straight to curly in a
matter of seconds. The dude who did it was really gross, fat, and a total loser alcoholic anyways!
Me: There's always going to be shit talkers. People get jealous(but also, some people genuinely don't like what you might be doing and putting out there
and that's totally valid. Everyone talks shit about other people. That's a true fucking fact of life). I know that from my own experiences with my book.
People tell me it's the shit to my face but then I hear that they said it sucked after I left the room. Whatever. It is what it is. But the thing is, and I don't
know what your take this is, but we fucking live in sound bite culture, which sucks, and a lot of people base their judgments about even listening to a single
beat or reading a single sentence based on critical reviews or word of mouth from potential haters so in a sense, I think it is significant to an extent. I've
always taken the approach that I'm not gonna have a pissing match with someone who doesn't like my shit. What I'm gonna do, how I'm gonna assess the
criticism leveled at me by someone is I'm gonna size up their life and ask, "What the fuck are you doing?" If they're going after some shit and working hard
and pushing themselves and making it happen, that gives them a lot more credence and credibility in my eyes. But if they're just hating, and they ain't doing
shit like I'm doing, then I'm gonna nod my head and forget about it by the next city block. I don't know. It seems like we're talking about the same thing.
Thoughts on that?
Erika: Long ass response might I say.
Me: I like to hear myself ranting through my words. It’s sense of comfort. But ya know, this is a conversation more than an interview. Plus, I think I was
drinking when I wrote that.
Erika: So anyway. Yes. I think we are talking about the same thing. I don't care enough about what assholes think because I have enough confidence in
myself and know that for every one hater out there, there are five people who love our shit and understand the humor and at the same time, the realness
in our music.
Me: Rachael, are there any specific examples you can give me about a time when you've been straight up dissed, only to spit a rhyme that put a
motherfucker in his place?
Rachael: Mmm, probably. That's usually how I freestyle though, I just end up talking shit about what you're wearing, how nasty you are, or how I know
that they have herpes. You can call names, insult, talk shit. Whatever. You just really have to deliver right, take whatever comes at you and don't loose
your cool. I've been straight up dissed, but I don't really care, cause it's pretty easy to find a real motherfucker's weak spot.
Me: Give me the process on how you two approach and collaborate together for a song.
Rachael: We both have to decide on the same beat, which can sometimes take a long time. We've got different tastes with music. But if it's fucking tight,
then usually the song speaks for itself. Then we'll just play it over and over and freestyle on it forever, until we get the feel and topic of the song.
Sometimes we'll get really stoned and try to channel other artists and use their style and flow, like Lil Wayne, or Lil' Kim. Eventually we have enough material
to form our own verses and start writing. Most of the time we'll share what we've come up with even before we are done, so we can see if we are both
headed in the same direction.
Erika: Kirby lets us know what sucks and what is cool. There are a lot of factors that affect the song making process such as the beat, the topic, the style
and what's currently going on in our everyday lives. If one of us is going through some tough shit (death, breakups, illness), then it can easily slow down the
overall process, which has happened many times before.
Rachael: I rewrite my songs at least five times over.
Me: I do that same thing where sometimes, when I'm cribbing a chapter and it's not working, I'll pick up a book and read a few passages and maybe
something in that will spark something in me. I used to keep a file on my computer of funny stories that happened to me or jokes I heard or crazy shit
someone told me so when I got blocked or couldn't write my way out of a fucking sentence, I would read through it and insert something that might fit
and it would take off. So then, how frustrating does it get when shit slows up?
Erika: It gets really frustrating. Sometimes I get worried that this project will never come out and that people won’t be able to hear it, then I remind myself
that things take time and that Kirby is a trustworthy person. He knows what he’s doing, so even if it slows down I know in the back of my head that it will
be done at the right time
Me: Who are your biggest musical influences?
Erika: Shiiiiit maaang, I don't even know where to start. I have listened to so many different types of music since I was a little girl so it’s really hard to
pinpoint one or just a few that have really influenced me. I would say I have had a lot of influence from female vocalists from Fiona Apple to Lil Kim. But what
really got me into hip hip in the first place were many underground MC's from LA such as the Living Legends (Scarub and Murs especially) Freestyle
Felowship, Project Blowd. Then other mainstream MC's like Too Short and LiL Wayne have also influenced me quite a bit.
Rachael: Here is a list of people or groups that I am INSPIRED by: Salt n' Peppa, Gang Starr, Suga Free, James Brown, The Cure, JJ Fad, Timbaland and
Magoo, Lil' Kim, Louis Armstron, I am stoned, Janet Jackson, The Nu Shooz, Al Green, Tego Calderon, Prince, Notorious BIG, The Biz, Lil' Wayne, Nice n'
Smooth, Ratatat, Nirvana, Lemon Jelly, The Silhouettes, Fine Young Cannibals, Etta James, The Talking Heads…heady shit, you know?
Me: Fine Young Cannibals, huh? Maybe that’s your weak spot. I’ll never forget that video for She Drives Me Crazy. What the fuck? Being a child of the
eighties definitely had it’s pitfalls. I woulda never guessed you for a FYC fan. But moving on, how personal do the songs really get? Meaning, are the
subjects you rap about in your songs really going on a lot or do you mesh together a few things from your life and then broaden that out to make a general
point or statement?
Rachael: Ok, so a lot of the songs are part real and a lot made up. But even the real parts might be different things or stories mixed as one. I mean,
these things really do go on, not necessarily in my life all the time, but I like to use my imagination as well as branch off of real experience.
Erika: For me, they all stem from real life experiences for sure. But there not always specific to one person. Usually when we say something like "you had a
small limp dick blah blah blah" or " you're a pathetic loser bitch" were referring to like 5 different people who might have just had one of those qualities. But
since we all mash it up together it sound as if we’re talking about one person in particular. The project were doing with Kirby is extremely real and although
very humorous, all our songs comes from real feelings, thoughts and experiences. Each song was written at a very different part of our lives so it's interesting
to reflect back and be like "oh shit I was really down at that point, but I’m feeling like I’m the shit right now!"
Me: I’m glad you said that. I was doing an interview with Lewee Regal of Get Dead and we broached that subject a little bit. He mentioned a particular song
that he’d recorded about a pretty shitty part of his life and he said basically the same thing as you did, How he couldn’t believe how busted up he was.
Then he said he said he hasn’t listened to the song since he recorded. I’m kinda going through the same thing. I started a new book that I wasn’t sure
what I was going to do with it. It’s me kind of looking back at a really recent and dark period in my life. At first I wasn’t even thinking about possibly coming
out with it, it was for therapeutic purposes only, but it’s really fucking good. My agent loves it. But it’s one of those things that once it is finished and put
out there, I ain’t gonna read it. No real press. No readings. Nothing. Shit’s painful. But good. And like you said, I’m like, “I am the shit.” So sticking with
songs, your lyrics are pretty rough. They're funny, but their rough. Have you had any family members give you shit or ask you what the fuck is up with
them? I know that when exit here came out, with all of it's pretty hardcore sexual and drug using and homicidal scenes, I was kind of worried about my
family's reaction because it's a side to me that obviously, they don't see. Any sort of backlash or awkwardness there?
Erika: Well my family hasn't really heard anything that we have done with Kirby, no one really has yet. But the music me and Rachael have made on our own
hasn't triggered any backlash from any family member. It's just my mom and my sister and they're both extremely open minded and a lot of topics we talk
about in our music I have already talked with my family about. They know whatsup!
Rachael: It’s been awkward for me at times. But some of my family is excited about it, I just don't want my Grandma Bev to hear any of it, she is too
sweet. Actually, yeah, it's REALLY FUCKING WEIRD!!! I say some of the nastiest shit, and my mom will like, play it for my relatives, and her friends who have
known me since the crib! Then I come home and see these people who's ears I have basically raped, and they're like "So Rachael, uhh, how is San
Francisco treating you?" Duh.
Me: Ha! That’s funny. My mom decided to give a copy of my book to her boss for some reason and apparently, when he was finished, he walked into her
office and asked her, “Is Jason doing okay?” It was like, why you would ever think to give that to anyone over thirty. I understand the pride thing, but shit,
really, you think your boss wants to read a scene where a nineteen year old kid is choking out some chick and jerking off on her tits. It was funny. So
moving on, how many guys come up to you two and make a point to say that something you rapped about was about them?
Rachael: I don't know exactly how many, but it's happened. And although we rap about guys ALL the time, not one song is about one particular dude in
general. It's all a large mix of gems and fools gold.
Erika: Hmm. I have only had two guys really come up to me being completely serious and say that a song I wrote was about them. Honestly one freestyle I
did was influenced by a guy I was seeing at the time, but there were also like 3 other dudes that influenced the same freestyle so that's a perfect example
of mashing several experiences together to make a song. But a lot of dudes will make jokes about me writing songs about them, especially if they're guys
I'm dating. I mean, I would be kind of scared to date either me or Rachael, we keep it HELLA real with dudes. And if you fuck up, IT'S OVER WITH!
Me: But you’re not. It’s that way with everything. If anyone fuck’s up, it should probably be over. I don’t know. But I do basically the same thing. I won’t
make up like a main character based on solely on someone I know, but I will throw a motherfucker in the middle of a scene and talk some shit on them big
time. It’s fucking beautiful too. I will tear a motherfucker to shreds if they cross me. Girls and guys. It’s a funny thing. It’s never a main character or even a
minor character but just a random fool in scene. But Jesus Christ, people swear it up and down that they are the main characters and that the whole book is
about them and maybe at this point, I shouldn’t be surprised, but really, it never ceases to amaze me how narcissistic people are in that extent, and how
much people have built themselves up through that. It’s like, this shit ain’t about you. Your life ain’t even entertaining. You might say a funny thing that I’ll
push into the dialogue. But get over it. It’s not fucking about you. Okay…that was my rant. Let’s move on. What has been the most gratifying experience
of the process so far? And why?
Rachael: My favorite part about this whole thing is the feeling I get during and after a good show or recording. I love when people say "Your show was so
fun". I just want my friends to come together and have fun. Plus, we get a lot of good looking people at our shows! Seriously people are always like
"damn there's a lot of babes here". But really, I Like knowing that people are choosing to listen to us, cause' nobody is making you, and I am pleasantly
surprised that cats want to hear my voice. It makes me feel happy, not sad.
Erika: Damn it's hard to pick just one. But if I had to it would be being able to vent and express myself to the fullest and know that there are a lot of
females and maybe even males who will be able to relate to what we have to say. Let’s just say that this project with Kirby is real as fuck and that's why it’s
funny at the same time, because reality is pretty damn funny and fucked up at the same time.
Me: Any plans to branch out and do solo work?
Erika: Not at this point no. This project with Kirby, or even what we do on our own time is what I am focused on now, and the thought of doing
something solo hasn't really crossed my mind. Can’t speak for the far future though.
Me: How did you two meet?
Erika: Craigslist, in the housing section. I was moving out of my place down by SFSU and she was moving out of her downtown apartment. I posted an ad
on craigslist looking for a roommate that was "very 420 friendly" and she was looking for a roommate on craigslist that was "very 420 friendly". She scoped a
sick apartment in the Upper Haight, we met in person, clicked very well and the rest is history.
Me: What was the point where you guys thought, Fuck it. Let's make some songs and give ourselves a name?
Erika: The night we decided to name ourselves we were at a party with a group of our guys friends who were all freestyling to each other. We decided to
join in but of course they didn't pay any attention to us so we went in a corner by ourselves, freestyled for a while, then after a few minutes Rachael was
like "hey we should call ourselves Toast" I have no clue how the hell she thought of it. Maybe there was some bread and a toaster in the kitchen of the
party we were at. Anyways, I thought the name was sick so were went with it. At first, we weren't writing songs, we actually didn't start writing until we
met and started this project with Kirby. Everything we would put out on myspace were all freestyles that we had recorded in my room into the internal mic
on my computer. We weren't one bit serious. We would sit in front of my computer, smoke a mad amount of weed and babble on for several minutes each,
laugh our asses off, smoke more weed, then do it all over again. It was purely for fun. The transition from freestyling to writing versus was actually really
difficult for us, and I’m sure it is vice versa. I’m still learning how to write a sick, coherent verse.
Me: For sure. I think everyone is always learning how to write a sick coherent verse. Sometimes, shit just ain’t working the way you want it too in your head
but ya gotta go with it. I think people sometimes wanna look at an artist and see that everything they did was so fucking sick and tight but if they’d ask
that artist, he or she would probably say that some of it was garbage. But yeah, I was going to ask you the story behind the name, but shit, you covered
that. So, let’s do this. Give me three names. If you were putting together show and could pick three acts to open for, who would it be?
Erika: oh god, ok. Can I be totally far fetched? If so then, Too short, Lil Wayne and TI . Realistically, Kirby Dominant, Murs and Triclops (thanks to you)
Me: That was a good night! One of the first times I actually kicked it with you two. And you guys got so into the Clops. It was awesome. So let’s talk about
the other gender for a moment. Do you two think guys get intimidated by your rhymes and your ambition?
Rachael: Yes, I really do. I have to flip it around. Because If I heard a dude rap about ladies the way I do about some guys, I probably would be frightened
to talk to them. But nobody should be intimidated, because it's just this thing I do.
Erika: YES. Either that or they just hate me. Until very recently, I hadn’t gotten play in HELLA long time. So shiiit I don't know what’s wrong with me!
There have been times when I meet a guy he seems all into me and shit, then he hears my music, and never calls me again. It’s weird, but honestly, if a guy
cant handle hearing what I have to say then I don't want him anyways. I need a real man, not some sensitive pussy bitch, who wants some submissive,
quiet, boring chick. Shiiit I’m crazy! Handle it ho!
Me: Here that, dudes. From the source. But the idea of being strong and empowered women play a major role in the substance of your music and how you
don't take shit from men. So I'm wondering what a solid guy is in your minds? What do you look for, if anything, in a man?
Rachael: Wow we are getting kind of deep here. The truth is, I have taken a lot of shit from men, and I probably still do. I don't take shit from men I
don't like. But realizing all that shit I've put up with from the ones I did like is what creates the substance of my music. A solid guy in my mind is somebody
who knows what he wants and doesn't doubt himself. Confidence, but not arrogance. He has to have trustworthy qualities, and he can't be a fucking
sleeze. Must be funny. He also has to have a solid jaw line, and a nice firm ass. Seriously, that's what I look for.
Erika: I don't really know what a solid guy is to me, everyone has there positives and negatives and I don't expect anyone to be "perfect" whatever that is
anyways. I look for a guy who can make me laugh, a good personality and sense of humor is number one in my book. Also a guy who has shit going for
them, regardless if it's some huge future goal or just having there everyday shit together, just something going on besides sitting on there ass, complaining
about how broke they are without doing anything about it. I want a guy to treat me like a lady, take me out, buy me a drink here and there, maybe buy
me a sack of chronic or some new Nikes to surprise me, HA! Just because I’m independent doesn't mean I don't want to be "courted". I can’t have some
broke ass loser begging me for shit all the time, I'm no ones goddamn mother. Also, I want some physical attraction, they aint got to be a fucking model,
but at least something I can look at and be like "I got a good looking bitch". Lastly, and I know this sounds superficial, but whatever, be packing down there
please. Toast don't like baby carrots.
Me: So what do ya'll do when you ain't rapping?
Rachael: I work as a nanny for two young boys, and sometimes I try to get them to rap, but they don't and CAN'T know about Toast. I like photography
a lot, so I do that. When it's sunny on the weekends I like to ride my bike to the panhandle, smoke a joint and listen to music. Watch the dogs and people
run around like everything is "all good". I like cooking sometimes, I've gotten really into making lasagna. Last time I put a layer of bacon in it. I like sitting at
cafés and drinking lots of coffee, and just check out babes and
make up stories about them in my head.
Erika: Well I teach children with Autism and work with children with disabilities on the daily. When Im not doing that, im smoking chronic, drinking Sangria,
talking shit with my girls, complaining about something, listening to music, searching for weird jewelry on the internet, hanging with friends or hanging with a
Me: What advice do you have for other female emcees out there?
Erika: keep it real. And when I say this I mean, don't just rap about what you think people want to hear. Rap about your real day to day shit. Even if its
gross, like talking about your period or a yeast infection you had last week. Don't feel like because your rapping, you got to talk about turntables, break
dancing and graffiti, unless that's what you do on the daily. Talk about the stupid fat bitch who always tries to steal your man, or the dude who always tries
to stick his dick in your ass. Whatever it is, keep it honest and real and don't be afraid to put yourself out there.
Rachael: Keep doing it. Get crazy with it. Don't let some asshole interrupt you or grab your mic.
Me: What's on the horizon for Toast? Your working on the album but you guys got anything coming up? Shows? New songs?
Rachael: Yeah we've got some things here and there. We are almost done with the album, but we do our own songs and shows on the side. We have
two new songs that we just performed on the 18th, but they aren't recorded yet. One is about Haight Street and that's my favorite one so far. It's more
up beat and not so... uh.. mean.
Erika: Well we are supposed to be making a music video with our friends, don't know when that's going to happen. And we have a new song that we will
be performing there, don't got a name for it yet though.
Me: Anything else you wanna say?
Erika: I love Bacon, grape Juice, Nike cortez, dank chronic and rough sex. If I’m in a bad mood, any of those five things will make me happy. Oh yea, you
Me: I know I do. You two rule as well. What about you, Rachael?
Rachael: Yeah, there's a lot I want to say. But I got drunk on this fine, rainy, Sunday morning and I am afraid I can't think of it all. One love.
Me: And there ya have it. Thanks, ladies. To get some Toasty action people can go to www.myspace.com/toastyhos. Get a taste of some rad music and be
on the look out for their first album to drop.
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Me: So Toast, you are on the verge of recording and releasing your first album, give me some
details, some sort of preview, anything you can say about what's going on with it.
Rachael: The process has been a group effort. Me, Erika, and Kirby Dominant. The three of
us have had to make decisions together to create this project and it's been fun. It's been
difficult too. So we've cried and laughed together during the making of it. We get personal.
This album is not all about men-bashing and shit talking. It's about being a woman and how
fun it can be, but also how tricky it can be.
Erika: Kirby is solely producing the project, making all the beats. A lot of them definitely have
an electro/hip hop feel to them, a lot of synths and influence from many old school artists
from a variety of genres.
Rachael: Picture yourself getting stoned in a room with some girls talking about the simple
details in life that make your days good or bad.
Me: That's a nice image at the end of your answer. Getting personal, to me, is the only way
to be creative. Although I do think there has to be some level of detachment. But there's a
lot of music out today that seems completely detached and it's not good because it sounds
like the people making it don't care that much. There are records when I here them,
whether it be a punk record like Get Dead's Letter's Home where in one song they sing,
"Perhaps I want this shit in side of me. I don't how to act without all this misery. And the
problems and the pain and the regret and the heartbreak, it's a sick fucking way I find it all so
comforting. Or the Jonathon Richmond song where he has this line, “I go to bakeries all day
long. There's a lack of sweetness in my life.” Or a P.O.S. song when he raps about being a
broke artist and living off cold can soup and bread to get by and he's like, “I cherish my free
time. But I maximize so my soul needs to unwind.” It's like, Uhhh!!! Yeah! That shit is
personal. Cutting glass and spilling it out in blood. It's real. That's what I get when I hear
some Toast shit. Your talking about being alive and how fucking contrived life can be and how
funny it can be and how you can put that in perspective and spin it.
Rachael: Yes, I like talking about being alive. I also like talking about being dead. You
know, I like to be a creep sometimes. But really, most of the shit I rap about is for fun, if
people listen and laugh, or relate in some way then good for them.
|For those of you who haven’t had the pleasure of experiencing the hilarious and immensely entertaining sound of the hip-hop duo Toast [Erika
S. and Rachael R.] I suggest you get with it after reading this and learn what’s up. These San Francisco girls have a lot on their minds and
rhyme that shit hard and they don’t give a fuck what anyone has to say about it. A couple of weeks ago I finally got their attention and
proposed a series of interviews with them and when they agreed, we sat down and got to work. They gots some cool shit coming up, they’re
playing a ton of shows, and if you can get down with three minute songs about guys who come to fast, periods, and cheeseburgers, then this
is the interview for you. And if you can’t, fuck it, read this shit and get with the fucking program. Without further ado, I give ya’ll my Toast